[SailfishDevel] Open source in-app ad API helper for QML - please, join

Tue May 31 09:16:27 UTC 2016

@ZLutor actually, it would be very interesting to have IAp based on Paypal
/ Flattr / Bitcoin / younameit!

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Zoltán Lutor <zoltan.lutor at gmail.com>
wrote:

> @Tone: "with my app where I had included ads" - what ad library do you
> use on Sailfish?
> I was not aware of anything available there. Especially nothing for
> Qt/QML...
>
> 2016-05-31 8:58 GMT+02:00 Tone Kastlunger <users.giulietta at gmail.com>:
>
>> This is an excellent discussion point; I believe this is a very clear
>> aspect of the key problem of SFOS at the moment - the whole point of SFOS
>> is to DIFFERENTIATE itself from android.
>>
>> Note : I love coding for SFOS, it's inspiring and motivating. Sure, it
>> has it's limitations and quirks, but still, its a great experience IMHO.
>>
>> The facts are that, if you ask someone the question: "Would you mind ads
>> in app XX?" they will reply "Hell NO".
>> But nevertheless, if app XX gets published with ads, and the app is good,
>> nobody will care about the ads, and use it anyways.
>>
>> So, this can mean that:
>>
>> 1) nobody wants ads
>> 2) nobody cares if they are there, tho
>>
>> My experience has been a harsh rejection of ads by the jolla community,
>> with my app where I had included ads.
>> In the timeframe the app had ads included, I noticed two trends :
>> a) people who stopped using the app completely due to the adds
>> b) people who kept on using it (hence rule 2) applies).
>>
>> I'd wonder if codign a SFOS app with ads and publish it as an Android app
>> on the jolla store will actually fix things?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:20 AM, <zoltan.lutor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, that is how it is. Paid model does not work for masses - maybe iOS
>>> is exception to some extent...
>>>
>>>
>>> I fully understand those who are fed up with annoying ads - just like
>>> me, too.
>>>
>>>
>>> But it does not imply ads are evil as such. Just they have to be placed
>>> carefully and accordingly...
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I just wanted to invite other developers for helping me
>>> finishing this 'sdk'...
>>>
>>>
>>> Zoltán
>>>
>>> Andrew Penkrat írta ekkor: 2016.05.30. 23:46
>>> I want to add my experience from the developer's point of view. I have
>>> an Android app with about 1000 installations (and 100 active users). This
>>> app has ads as well as an option to disable them for a $2 donation.
>>>
>>> Nobody ever activated this option. So most probably I won't be able to
>>> get any revenue from the app without ads.
>>>
>>> 2016-05-30 23:22 GMT+03:00 Martin Kolman <martin.kolman at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Mon, 30 May 2016 19:32:54 +0000 Alexey Andreyev:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello, Zoltán! :)
>>>> Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks! :)
>>>>
>>>> I subscribe to this - while I understand developers are looking for
>>>> revenue streams I really like
>>>> how current native Sailfish OS apps are pretty much add free (for one
>>>> reason or another).
>>>> Just take a look how reckless add usage ruins application usability on
>>>> Android.
>>>> I'm fine with donations, paid/premium versions, etc. but please no
>>>> adds! :)
>>>>
>>>> I guess if you are a developer it make sence to ask for donations /
>>>> create non-free apps, but please, no ads at all.
>>>> (Espesially with additional web engine module loaded eating my
>>>> resources)
>>>>
>>>> Again, this is just my opinion. I understand it opens new possibilities
>>>> for some projects, etc, etc.
>>>>
>>>> пн, 30 мая 2016 г. в 21:48, Zoltán Lutor < <zoltan.lutor at gmail.com>
>>>> zoltan.lutor at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> I've progressed with implementing an open source wrapper for Vserv
>>>>> RESTful advertisement API in QML. Quote from API description:
>>>>>
>>>>> Vserv provides a simple HTTP based API to publishers/developers and
>>>>> other ad networks, etc. to fetch ads for mobile sites or mobile
>>>>> applications. The mobile device / server makes a HTTP request to Vserv
>>>>> Marketplace server with the required parameters and in response receives
>>>>> the ad in JSON format. This single API integration gives you the
>>>>> flexibility to fetch banner/ full screen / rich media ads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Available implementation is in pre-beta phase - quite majority of
>>>>> functionality works but there is still room for improvement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I'm not so experienced in this area of sw development - and
>>>>> especially newbie in Sailfish native development - *I would like to
>>>>> ask some help from the community in finishing it*.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be a general purpose QML wrapper around the API with
>>>>> necessary tailoring is needed for Sailfish - e.g. Webkit vs. WebView, etc.
>>>>> Maybe separate git branches are needed for different implementation(?) -
>>>>> I'm open for any reasonable proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anybody willing to join? Reviewing, commenting - and of
>>>>> course, coding is more than welcome. [This is my first open source
>>>>> project, so comment from this aspect is welcome, too.]
>>>>>
>>>>> API descrption is here
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/139TRSTV33tLxKxbew4yPTPF4uc8PZJPiRkxyo9GymIE/edit>,
>>>>> code repository is in BitBucket
>>>>> <https://bitbucket.org/zlutor/qml-wrapper-for-vserv-http-ad-api>
>>>>>
>>>>> Br,
>>>>>
>>>>> Zoltan
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