<div dir="ltr">@ZLutor actually, it would be very interesting to have IAp based on Paypal / Flattr / Bitcoin / younameit!<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Zoltán Lutor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zoltan.lutor@gmail.com" target="_blank">zoltan.lutor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">@Tone: "<span style="font-size:12.8px">with my app where I had included ads</span>" - what ad library do you use on Sailfish? <div>I was not aware of anything available there. Especially nothing for Qt/QML...</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-31 8:58 GMT+02:00 Tone Kastlunger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:users.giulietta@gmail.com" target="_blank">users.giulietta@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>This is an excellent discussion point; I believe this is a very clear aspect of the key problem of SFOS at the moment - the whole point of SFOS is to DIFFERENTIATE itself from android.<br></div><br></div><div>Note : I love coding for SFOS, it's inspiring and motivating. Sure, it has it's limitations and quirks, but still, its a great experience IMHO.<br><br></div>The facts are that, if you ask someone the question: "Would you mind ads in app XX?" they will reply "Hell NO".<br></div><div>But nevertheless, if app XX gets published with ads, and the app is good, nobody will care about the ads, and use it anyways.<br></div><div></div><div><br>So, this can mean that:<br><br></div>1) nobody wants ads<br>2) nobody cares if they are there, tho<br><br></div><div>My experience has been a harsh rejection of ads by the jolla community, with my app where I had included ads.<br></div><div>In the timeframe the app had ads included, I noticed two trends :<br></div><div>a) people who stopped using the app completely due to the adds<br></div><div>b) people who kept on using it (hence rule 2) applies).<br></div><div><br></div><div></div></div>I'd wonder if codign a SFOS app with ads and publish it as an Android app on the jolla store will actually fix things?<br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 8:20 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zoltan.lutor@gmail.com" target="_blank">zoltan.lutor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Yes, that is how it is. Paid model does not work for masses - maybe iOS is exception to some extent...</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">I fully understand those who are fed up with annoying ads - just like me, too.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">But it does not imply ads are evil as such. Just they have to be placed carefully and accordingly...</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Anyway, I just wanted to invite other developers for helping me finishing this 'sdk'...</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px"><br></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">Zoltán</p></div><br><div><p>Andrew Penkrat írta ekkor: 2016.05.30. 23:46<br></p></div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr">I want to add my experience from the developer's point of view. I have an Android app with about 1000 installations (and 100 active users). This app has ads as well as an option to disable them for a $2 donation.<div><br><div>Nobody ever activated this option. So most probably I won't be able to get any revenue from the app without ads.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-30 23:22 GMT+03:00 Martin Kolman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:martin.kolman@gmail.com" target="_blank">martin.kolman@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hello, Zoltán! :)<br>
Feel free to criticize me, but... ads in our jolla? No, thanks!
:)<br>
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I subscribe to this - while I understand developers are looking for
revenue streams I really like<br>
how current native Sailfish OS apps are pretty much add free (for
one reason or another).<br>
Just take a look how reckless add usage ruins application usability
on Android.<br>
I'm fine with donations, paid/premium versions, etc. but please no
adds! :)<span><br>
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<div dir="ltr">I guess if you are a developer it make sence to ask
for donations / create non-free apps, but please, no ads at all.<br>
(Espesially with additional web engine module loaded eating my
resources)<br>
<br>
Again, this is just my opinion. I understand it opens new
possibilities for some projects, etc, etc. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">пн, 30 мая 2016 г. в 21:48, Zoltán Lutor <<a href="mailto:zoltan.lutor@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:zoltan.lutor@gmail.com" target="_blank">zoltan.lutor@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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<p>I've progressed with implementing an open source wrapper
for Vserv RESTful advertisement API in QML. Quote from API
description:</p>
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<p>Vserv provides a simple HTTP based API to
publishers/developers and other ad networks, etc. to
fetch ads for mobile sites or mobile applications. The
mobile device / server makes a HTTP request to Vserv
Marketplace server with the required parameters and in
response receives the ad in JSON format. This single API
integration gives you the flexibility to fetch banner/
full screen / rich media ads.</p>
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<p>Available implementation is in pre-beta phase - quite
majority of functionality works but there is still room
for improvement.</p>
<p>Since I'm not so experienced in this area of sw
development - and especially newbie in Sailfish native
development - <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)"><strong><em>I
would like to ask some help from the community in
finishing it</em></strong>.</span></p>
<p>It would be a general purpose QML wrapper around the API
with necessary tailoring is needed for Sailfish - e.g.
Webkit vs. WebView, etc. Maybe separate git branches are
needed for different implementation(?) - I'm open for any
reasonable proposal.</p>
<p>Is there anybody willing to join? Reviewing, commenting -
and of course, coding is more than welcome.
[<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">This is my
first open source project, so comment from this aspect
is welcome, too</span>.]</p>
<p>API descrption is <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/139TRSTV33tLxKxbew4yPTPF4uc8PZJPiRkxyo9GymIE/edit" target="_blank">here</a>, code repository is in <a href="https://bitbucket.org/zlutor/qml-wrapper-for-vserv-http-ad-api" target="_blank">BitBucket</a></p>
<p>Br,</p>
<p>Zoltan<br>
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