[SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

Wed Nov 6 17:31:53 UTC 2013

If everything handled correctly (assuming no 3rd party lib updates) what
bad can happen?

--
Marcin

2013/11/6 Martin Grimme <martin.grimme at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> 2013/11/6, 郭云鹤 <guoyunhebrave at gmail.com>:
> > i think every app should be independent. apps' dependence caused many
> > problems.
>
> I think the same. While having deps and libraries and everything is
> cool from a Linuxer's point of view, it will give a bad user
> experience and just cry for breaking things when updating the OS or
> other apps.
>
> You can either try to get the library into Nemo, or include it in your
> package or link to it statically. Those few kbytes wasted by this
> approach should be no real problem, but worth it, if it improves the
> user's experience and happiness with Sailfish devices.
>
> I remember people crying they could not update their N900 because of
> some library dependencies. Don't let this happen again.
> 1337 Linux h4x0rz in need of obscure libs and stuff will always find a
> workaround to fulfill their needs, e.g. with 3rd party repositories.
> :)
>
> Keep in mind that Sailfish wants to be attractive to regular users and
> user experience should be highly valued.
>
>
> My 2 cents,
> Martin
>
>
> >
> > 郭云鹤(Guo Yunhe)
> > http://guoyunhe.me/
> > 在 2013-11-7 上午12:13，"Marcin M." <marmistrzmar at gmail.com>写道：
> >
> >> It's not a pity when it comes to libraries. It is when you create a
> >> modular app ;) - divided into packages. But if there was an
> >> in-app-purchase
> >> system, it wouldn't be so bad :)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Marcin
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/11/6 Mohammed Hassan <mohammed.hassan at jollamobile.com>
> >>
> >>> I don't see it as a pity. I see it as an opportunity for everyone
> >>> to push their libraries and stuff to mer/nemo/sailfish.
> >>>
> >>> An advantage of SailfishOS is that everyone can contribute and have
> >>> their
> >>> own applications, libraries and tools there.
> >>>
> >>> Just my 0.02
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 05:06:58PM +0100, Marcin M. wrote:
> >>> >  Hi,
> >>> >  Thanks! Well, it's a pity ;(
> >>> >  Regards,
> >>> >
> >>> >  --
> >>> >  Marcin
> >>> >  2013/11/6 Jonni Rainisto <[1]jonni.rainisto at jolla.com>
> >>> >
> >>> >  Hi,
> >>> >  AFAIK. Currently you can only depend on mer/nemomobile packages, you
> >>> >  cannot depend on store packages.
> >>> >  re, Jonni
> >>> >  __________________________________________________________________
> >>> >
> >>> >  From: [2]devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  [[3]devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Marcin M.
> >>> >  [[4]marmistrzmar at gmail.com]
> >>> >  Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:34 PM
> >>> >  To: Sailfish OS Developers
> >>> >  Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
> >>> >  And what about in-app-store depends? (Free app, paid databases,
> >>> >  databases depend on the free app)
> >>> >  --
> >>> >  Marcin
> >>> >  2013/11/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov <[5]coderusinbox at gmail.com>
> >>> >
> >>> >  Good point, thanks!
> >>> >
> >>> >  On 06.11.2013 18:30, Jonni Rainisto wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >  And if some good library is missing, and you are willing to maintain
> >>> >  the library, feel free trying to get it added to Mer/Nemomobile side
> >>> >  (after that you can depend against it).
> >>> >  re, Jonni
> >>> >  ________________________________________
> >>> >  From: [6]devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  [[7]devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Jonni Rainisto
> >>> >  [[8]jonni.rainisto at jolla.com]
> >>> >  Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:27 PM
> >>> >  To: Sailfish OS Developers
> >>> >  Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
> >>> >  HI,
> >>> >  AFAIK, uploading libraries to store is forbidden, you can only
> >>> >  depend on common mer/nemomobile libraries in .spec/rpm Requires
> >>> >  field.
> >>> >  re, Jonni
> >>> >  ________________________________________
> >>> >  From: [9]devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  [[10]devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey
> >>> >  Kozhevnikov [[11]coderusinbox at gmail.com]
> >>> >  Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 1:40 PM
> >>> >  To: [12]devel at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store
> >>> >  Please more information about Harbour:
> >>> >  - it can accept only single files, means i cant upload some
> >>> >  libraries,
> >>> >  required as depends for my appliction?
> >>> >  - does it acts as repository?
> >>> >  On 06.11.2013 17:06, Karl Granström wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >  Ahoy all,
> >>> >  Today we're launching Jolla Harbour <[13]harbour.jolla.com>, the
> >>> >  portal for submitting applications to the Jolla Store.
> >>> >  You can submit and manage your applications. Consumers will be able
> >>> >  to install them directly from their Jolla phones.
> >>> >  Here are some details about Jolla Harbour:
> >>> >  Joining and logging into Jolla Harbour:
> >>> >  Joining is free! You can create a Jolla account from the Jolla
> >>> >  Harbour landing page ([14]harbour.jolla.com) or if you have
> >>> >  pre-ordered your Jolla phone, you have everything you need to get
> >>> >  started. To manage your account details, please visit
> >>> >  [15]account.jolla.com.
> >>> >  Support for Sailfish and Android™ applications:
> >>> >  You can submit both Sailfish and Android™ applications to Jolla
> >>> >  Harbour. The submission process is the same.
> >>> >  Start with free applications:
> >>> >  At launch, the Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store will support only free
> >>> >  applications. We are working hard to enable payment solutions and we
> >>> >  will keep you posted about these capabilities as they develop.
> >>> >  Binary package naming:
> >>> >  You will receive naming guidelines when you upload the binary
> >>> >  package to Jolla Harbour. You can also find guidelines on versioning
> >>> >  at [16]http://semver.org.
> >>> >  Preparing your metadata:
> >>> >  Jolla Harbour needs to know a few things about your app:
> >>> >  - An app icon for the Store (86x86px, png) (Current SDK supports
> >>> >  90x90px images; more details to follow soon)
> >>> >  - 1-3 screenshots (540x960px, png or jpg)
> >>> >  - An optional Cover image for your Store page (516x252px, png or
> >>> >  jpg)
> >>> >  Submission process:
> >>> >  To submit your application to Jolla Harbour, fill in the metadata
> >>> >  for it and upload the binary and required images. After you have
> >>> >  submitted your app, Jolla will start Quality Assurance testing.
> >>> >  Quality Assurance testing:
> >>> >  Jolla will perform QA testing on your applications on real Jolla
> >>> >  devices. We will get back to you with feedback on your app within a
> >>> >  few days. You will be notified on the QA results via the email
> >>> >  address you have registered to your Jolla account.
> >>> >  If you encounter any issues, please contact us by email,
> >>> >  [17]developer-care at jolla.com, or report them to the Sailfish
> >>> >  developers mailing list at devel at [18]lists.sailfishos.org.
> >>> >  Happy hacking!
> >>> >  The Jolla Store Team
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> >>> > References
> >>> >
> >>> >  1. mailto:jonni.rainisto at jolla.com
> >>> >  2. mailto:devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  3. mailto:devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  4. mailto:marmistrzmar at gmail.com
> >>> >  5. mailto:coderusinbox at gmail.com
> >>> >  6. mailto:devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  7. mailto:devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  8. mailto:jonni.rainisto at jolla.com
> >>> >  9. mailto:devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  10. mailto:devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  11. mailto:coderusinbox at gmail.com
> >>> >  12. mailto:devel at lists.sailfishos.org
> >>> >  13. http://harbour.jolla.com/
> >>> >  14. http://harbour.jolla.com/
> >>> >  15. http://account.jolla.com/
> >>> >  16. http://semver.org/
> >>> >  17. mailto:developer-care at jolla.com
> >>> >  18. http://lists.sailfishos.org/
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