[SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl

[Filip Kłębczyk]

W dniu 21.05.2014 22:49, Tone Kastlunger pisze:
> Thank you for your reply, I'll take it as an honest one.
> So to me this sounds like it is worth making a mess about it, but only
> by telling part of the whole story.
> I do not belive this is completely fair to the audience (or the part of
> the audience who might be interested in this mailing list);
> without facts (which you cannot disclose due to cited private reasons)
> you are calling out for people to make a judgement based on a unilateral
> (i.e. yours) opinion.

Tone so let me use an analogy to explain this to you. If before court 
defending side resigns from right to defend itself and won't speak a 
single word whose fault is it? Can you blame judge or the jury (in USA 
case) that they are making their decision based on what they've heard 
from prosecutor, who was the only one speaking. It's only far analogy, 
but I would say a good one a proper in this case.

Have you noticed that despite this thread is already so long Thomas is 
completely silent. I don't believe he doesn't read this mailing list - 
with a high probability he does. This thread is neither pleasure for me 
nor for him, in normal conditions it would have never happened. I might 
be angry at Jolla not reacting or (unfair to me) explaining that it is 
entirely private case like Stefano claims, despite for Metalab (well 
known hackerspace in Europe, just like c-base in Berlin) or half people 
here it isn't. I'm not that much angry at Thomas, to be honest I feel 
sorry for him, yes that's what I feel, but it is his freedom of choice 
to act like he acts. I'm not a cold devil as some may think - I do have 
empathy. I know that publishing more details of this conflict, that are 
embarassing, won't serve the main goal - ending this conflict on 
professional (Jolla) level. I can give names which won't mean anything 
to you, but to Thomas, me and few other people they will - license 
notice, phd studies blow up, postcardgate, gpodder hack day or very 
embarrassing for me EP2013. Does Thomas wants to all of this and more to 
find place here. I doubt it, as it's not a pleasure for anyone. If you 
will insist and this madness that is going all the time won't stop, I 
will consider telling everyone the whole story of this conflict from my 
perspective and then you will be able to go to Thomas and confront it 
(if he will speak about it at all).

> Yes, you cite reasoning of exclusion from Meta Hack event, and yes, you
> cite you being ignored intentionally on IRC, and I can take your side
> for these not being fair things, but these are all subsequent events,
> which have a reasoning originating from different conditions (the
> "private" matters), so, like it or not, consequences of *yours an THP's
> own actions*, which btw happened way before THP joined Jolla, so most
> likely very remotely related to Jolla, I dare to say not related to
> Jolla at all, pay attention, but - I repeat - *related to yours and
> THP's own actions*. This is, and remains therefore, a private issue, and
> does - in my opinion - have nothing to do with the fact THP is member of
> Jolla. Now, this cleared, I do believe nothing stands in your way to
> crucifix THP on a personal level, if you have reasons for this.
>
> But Jolla has nix & nada to do with this, IMO. In including the company,
> you are hurting the company.

The company is hurting me and hurting itself, by tolerating that Thomas 
took his private conflict with him to Jolla setting. He didn't have to 
and I can say that in one single case he acted accordingly. I see Qt 
Developers Day in Berlin, when Atilla Csipa says sth like that "Filip, 
look whose here - Thomas" and then Thomas says "hi" I respond with "hi" 
and Thomas takes his hand and shakes mine. I thought that this crazy 
story is going to end - after few days everything went back to "normal" 
state, which we experience and is a problem until today.

Regards,
Filip