[SailfishDevel] A kickoff meeting about SailfishOS, open source, collaboration, way forward @ 15 April, 15:00 UTC

[Carsten Munk]

On 13/04/14 10:15, Filip Kłębczyk wrote:
> W dniu 11.04.2014 11:41, Carsten Munk pisze:
>>
>>
>> I have been working to make a proposal for agenda (note: this is my
>> proposal, not set in stone, but I think it is time to make one) - you
>> can add/propose changes/change at http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeeting
>>
>> We have limited time and I think it's possible to dedicate time every
>> two weeks to have a sync meeting. We have so many topics to discuss and
>> limited amount of time.
>>
>> Agenda:
>>
>> Focus on generating action points to be undertaken and discussing
>> problems and issues which would constructively lead to solutions.
>>
>> 1. Introductions of participants in meeting [something about you and why
>> you're here] - 10 min
>>
>> 2. When's next meeting: Regular meetings every two weeks around the
>> project? - 5 min
>>
>> 3. How to make contributing to Nemo/Mer easier [big topic] - 1 min
>> introduction
>> 3.1: Current problems and situation, potential solutions [20 min open
>> floor discussion]
>
> It seems giving 20 minutes for such imporant and essential part is
> clearly not enough. There should be at least 30 minutes as there are
> many points/problems to report.
>
>> 3.2: Solution proposal: Merge Mer and Nemo middleware [2 min intro + 10
>> min discussion] [suggested intro holder: Stskeeps/Carsten Munk?]
>
> I think this point should go away from agenda. First of all the topic is
> affecting those at mer-general and as expressed by some people already
> that shouldn't be a topic only for people here (unless we assume that
> Mer is Jolla property and different vendors have nothing to say on that
> matter). Secondly in my opinion the topic should be held on separate
> meeting as it was proposed earlier - putting too many topics at once
> might make whole meeting discussion blurry. I think the main point of
> the whole meeting is problem with development process parts that in
> opinion of community should happen in the open, not about merges.
>
> I'm strongly against putting this topic.

First off, one of the reasons for discussing this in first place is that 
we can talk a lot about how to make things better, but it doesn't make 
much sense if we don't know how and where we should do it and the aim of 
this topic is end with a proposal to be posted on mer-general@

I'm OK with posting a proposal before the meeting personally, leaving 
more time for open discussion in the previous topic, as it's a very 
needed background to understand how we action on the problems.

I would personally suggest that we divide the discussion time into 
hilighting issues and then a set time for solution proposals from the 
floor (20 minutes, 10 minute solution proposals) to the discussed 
problems, so it is clear that we work towards solutions, not just talking.

Modified agenda proposal:

We have 1 1/2 hour (90 minutes)

Focus on generating action points to be undertaken and discussing 
problems and issues which would constructively lead to solutions.

1. Introductions of participants in meeting [something about you and why 
you're here] - 10 min

2. When's next meeting: Regular meetings every two weeks around the 
project? - 5 min

3. How to make contributing to Nemo/Mer/SailfishOS easier [big topic] - 
1 min introduction
3.1: Current problems and situation, potential solutions [30 min open 
floor discussion, divided into 20 minute discussion, 10 minute solution 
proposals]

3.2: Solution proposal: Minimal/practical openness requirements and 
process for open source components in Mer/Nemo/SailfishOS [5 min intro + 
15 min discussion] - such as dedicated/listed maintainers/owners, etc. 
[suggested intro holder: w00t/Robin Burchell?]

3.3 Action proposal: Participation and contribution policy for Jolla's 
open source contributors in open source projects [5 min intro, 15 min 
discussion]  (Carol?)

3.4 Wrap-up and finalize action points


>
>> 3.3: Solution proposal: Minimal/practical openness requirements and
>> process for open source components in Mer/Nemo/SailfishOS [5 min intro +
>> 15 min discussion] - such as dedicated/listed maintainers/owners, etc.
>> [suggested intro holder: w00t/Robin Burchell?]
>
> That's very important topic, clearly connected with 3.1.
>
>> 3.6 Action proposal: Participation and contribution policy for Jolla's
>> open source contributors in open source projects [5 min intro, 15 min
>> discussion]  (Carol?)
>
> Valid topic.
>
>> 3.8 Wrap-up and finalize action points
>>
>> For next meeting(s):
>>







>
> Mer and Nemo merge should be added for those.
>
>> 0. Chum and such [bad summary, but tbr's topic suggested]
>> 1 Specific issue: Closed bits of SailfishOS - why/where/how and relation
>> to open source parts
>> 2: Plans on SailfishOS for Android [10 min intro, 15 min discussion]
>> x: Communication and transparency
>> x.1: Current problems and situation [20 min open floor]
>> x.2: At-meeting solution proposals [20 min open floor]
>
> Regards,
> Filip
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