<div dir="ltr">Sounds like something to metion at a community meeting after all Jolla wants to profile itself as more privacy aware....<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-11-14 19:21 GMT+02:00 Vladislav Vorobiev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v@piratweb.com" target="_blank">v@piratweb.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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On Thursday 12 November 2015 17:25:19 Thomas B. Rücker wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> On 11/09/2015 06:03 PM, Vladislav Vorobiev wrote:<br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > I setup my phone like this<br>
> > <a href="https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/</a> and<br>
> > it seems to work. The Phone is ringing (display stay black) but I can<br>
> > answer if i activate the screen with the button.<br>
><br>
> Sounds about right.<br>
><br>
> > The microphone from jolla phone works and caller hears me but I can't hear<br>
> > the caller.<br>
><br>
> If the situation is still the same as before, apply the ALSA trick and<br>
> try holding the phone upside down.<br>
<br>
</span>You mean this?<br>
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[stream]<br>
exe = voicecall-manager<br>
group = call<br>
<br>
</span>or something else?<br>
<span class=""><br>
> > So it's not usable....<br>
><br>
> Correct, but that should not have been a surprise to you. After all you<br>
> read the TJC item on this topic.<br>
><br>
> > For me is the stable sip feature (even without gui) decisive.<br>
><br>
> Then I strongly suggest using a different device than a Jolla phone.<br>
><br>
> > I have no firewall or something like what can block SIP, CSipSimple works<br>
> > on that device but there are other problems.<br>
><br>
> That's an Android application, different can of worms and brokenness.<br>
><br>
><br>
> SIP was on Jolla's roadmap, but was never delivered. I expect it got<br>
> dropped, but nobody bothered to update their public roadmap. It is not a<br>
> feature that would generate value for Jolla in the form of operator or<br>
> manufacturer deals, so I don't expect them to bother.<br>
<br>
</span>Seems the strategy is like by android and apple.<br>
I thought jola orients itself something else and supports independent<br>
services. We have already very good devices from Apple, Android and nobody<br>
need an half ready device with the same only profit strategy.<br>
<br>
I bought this device to check the current situation and what i see i wonder:<br>
<br>
Jola supports Facebook, Twitter, Google accounts but it don't support<br>
SIP, GPG (Mail or XMPP, what I is rely necessary to be different and<br>
independent).<br>
<br>
All what I need are basic things like: SIP, PGP, Calendar, Todos and<br>
possibility to sync my data with own servers and that's not given. If i need<br>
facebook or Twitter I'm going buy android or apple devices.<br>
<span class=""><br>
> If you need SIP<br>
> urgently, as you say, get a different device, as there is no promise and<br>
> no outlook on a change in situation.<br>
<br>
</span>I' have other phone and SIP is on PC. This discussion is more ge<br>
<span class=""><br>
> Please note that I don't think talking about platform features and user<br>
> problems is on topic here. So let's EOD. If there's any change you'll<br>
> see it in the TJC item.<br>
<br>
</span>I tried here because i hoped to get some updates in this case.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Vladislav<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
> Thomas<br>
><br>
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