<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>So, current situation is:<br><br></div>ML: official, could use, in dare times ;-), some moderation<br><br></div>TJC: official, nedd some improvements, but nobody can deny the success of Q&A sites (see Stackoverflow) as a developer helping tool<br>
<br></div>TMO: unofficial, suits all the needs of forum estimators.<br><br></div>For official advice one should post on the ML or TJC, for community help there's also TMO; while we can expect for Sailors to (promptly, hopefully) answer here on the ML or in TJC, of course we can't pretend the same for TMO: probably they're already too busy and we can't ask them to regularly scan a community forum on top of their other duties!<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Denis Zalevskiy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:denis.zalevskiy@jollamobile.com" target="_blank">denis.zalevskiy@jollamobile.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">On Monday 26 May 2014 11:03:14 <a href="mailto:sfietkonstantin@free.fr">sfietkonstantin@free.fr</a> wrote:<br>
> I went active on TMO while developing for SFOS.<br>
> It's not even a habit but more about easiness to use.<br>
><br>
> Forum have a clear hiearchy (better than TJC), and a thread system (like in<br>
> ML). It's focused on discussion (unlike TJC), and provides some useful<br>
<br>
</div>imo, it is focused on flame mostly and 90% of thread conversation contains<br>
unuseful ranting.<br>
<div class=""><br>
> tools (edit, formatting, thanks button; better than a ML). IMO it's the<br>
<br>
</div>formatting - q&a<br>
voting (better than thanks) - q&a<br>
<div class=""><br>
> perfect mix for engaging discussions inside the users community, and<br>
> between devs and users.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>q&a is also threaded, and it important that each informative comment can be<br>
converted to the "answer" (read "useful post")<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
- denis<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
> It might not work well to provide feedback to Jolla (TJC might do this<br>
> better), and is less efficient than ML for devs to devs discussions.<br>
><br>
> So I appreciate to have the 3 tools available, and would love to see Jolla<br>
> cooperate with TMO as a forum of choice for discussions.<br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
> ----- Mail original -----<br>
> De: "Denis Zalevskiy" <<a href="mailto:denis.zalevskiy@jollamobile.com">denis.zalevskiy@jollamobile.com</a>><br>
> À: <a href="mailto:devel@lists.sailfishos.org">devel@lists.sailfishos.org</a><br>
> Envoyé: Lundi 26 Mai 2014 10:55:10<br>
> Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum<br>
><br>
> On Monday 26 May 2014 10:49:51 <a href="mailto:sfietkonstantin@free.fr">sfietkonstantin@free.fr</a> wrote:<br>
> > +1<br>
> > TMO is often the forum of choice for many developers (me included), to<br>
><br>
> maybe because you are using TMO for a long time and have a habbit to use it<br>
> ? Also because many people who develop and developed for mobile linux also<br>
> has the same habbit :) So, it is easier to find 'em there.<br>
><br>
> - denis<br>
><br>
> > communicate with users. TJC could have taken this role, but the flat<br>
> > hiearchy, and the focus on QA, it don't fit that much for a discussion<br>
> > (especially between users and devs).<br>
> ><br>
> > ----- Mail original -----<br>
> > De: "Ruediger Gad" <<a href="mailto:r.c.g@gmx.de">r.c.g@gmx.de</a>><br>
> > À: "Sailfish OS Developers" <<a href="mailto:devel@lists.sailfishos.org">devel@lists.sailfishos.org</a>><br>
> > Envoyé: Lundi 26 Mai 2014 10:16:34<br>
> > Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum<br>
> ><br>
> > On 05/26/2014 09:50 AM, Stefano Mosconi wrote:<br>
> > > ...<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Should we invest our time into making a better <a href="http://together.jolla.com" target="_blank">together.jolla.com</a> rather<br>
> > > than a different platform (this is not rhetorical)?<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks for you answer, both Norbert and you. :)<br>
> > Indeed, the time overhead to manage multiple platforms as well as the<br>
> > points Nobert mentioned are important aspects and to be honest I have no<br>
> > clue about weighting the real trade-offs.<br>
> ><br>
> > With respect to the question what a forum has that the other platforms<br>
> > don't have:<br>
> > In a forum, e.g., I feel that I somehow get better contact to users of<br>
> > my apps.<br>
> > See, e.g., the SkippingStones work-in-progress thread as example:<br>
> > <a href="http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92695" target="_blank">http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92695</a><br>
> > I also enjoy to read some rather off-topic discussions like "Look what I<br>
> > drew on my phone" once in a while (which I wouldn't like ending up in my<br>
> > e-mail inbox btw.).<br>
> > There were also other aspects that got mentioned throughout this<br>
> > discussion that I found important.<br>
> > Unfortunately, I am pretty much on the run at the moment so I cannot<br>
> > repeat everything in detail.<br>
> ><br>
> > Generally, I got quite accustomed to using a forum.<br>
> > But then this is all about personal habits that one got used to.<br>
> ><br>
> > Right now, I am primarily using the Sailfish OS etc. sections at<br>
> > <a href="http://talk.maemo.org" target="_blank">talk.maemo.org</a> as "semi-official" Sailfish OS/Jolla forum replacement.<br>
> > So, in a sense, there is already something like a forum.<br>
> > Maybe this is a viable approach that can be used in the meantime?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > BR<br>
> ><br>
> > Ruediger<br>
> ><br>
> > > Stefano<br>
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