[SailfishDevel] 回复:Devel Digest, Vol 72, Issue 18

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>    2. Re: Lipstick not launching app (Adam Pigg)
>    3. Re: Lipstick not launching app (Slava Monich)
>    4. Re: Lipstick not launching app (Julien Blanc)
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> On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 19:39 +0800, 不瘦十斤不改名字 wrote:
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:50:42 +0100
> From: Adam Pigg <adam at piggz.co.uk>
> To: Sailfish OS Developers <devel at lists.sailfishos.org>
> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Lipstick not launching app
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> I think the qt5 booster is a no-op, but im sure someone with more
> knowledge can correct me.  The regular booster will try and load the
> app as a shared library so it will need to be compiled a certain way.
> Depends how your app is written.  Anything based on the sdk templates
> should be fine.
>
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:19, Julien Blanc <julien.blanc at tgcm.eu>
> wrote:
> >
> > Le mardi 14 avril 2020 à 11:27 +0100, Adam Pigg a écrit :
> > > Have you tried using invoker to launch it?
> >
> > [nemo at Sailfish ~]$ invoker --type silica-qt5 harbour-kontroller
> > invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/harbour-kontroller'
> > invoker: error: Can't send signal 11 to application [24388]: No such
> > process
> > Segmentation fault
> >
> > [nemo at Sailfish ~]$ invoker --type qt5 harbour-kontroller
> > invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/harbour-kontroller'
> >
> > --> app launches correctly.
> >
> > So that’s indeed a difference, and i can fix the .desktop file
> > accordingly. Thanks for the tip.
> >
> > But what is the difference between silica-qt5 and qt5 ? Why would it
> > cause an app crash ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Julien
> >
> > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 11:18, Julien Blanc <julien.blanc at tgcm.eu
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Finally found something relevant in the logs :
> > > >
> > > > Apr 14 12:15:42 Sailfish mapplauncherd[5363]: Boosted
> process
> > > > (pid=16324) was terminated due to signal 11
> > > >
> > > > So apparently, my app segfaults, but only when launched from
> > > > applauncherd. This is somewhat good news. I can start to
> track the
> > > > issue adding some debug traces.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still puzzled as what's the difference between
> launching from
> > > > lipstick and from a terminal.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Julien
> > > >
> > > > Le mardi 14 avril 2020 à 07:35 +0200, Julien Blanc a écrit :
> > > > > There it is :
> > > > >
> > > > > [Desktop Entry]
> > > > > Type=Application
> > > > > X-Nemo-Application-Type=silica-qt5
> > > > > Icon=harbour-kontroller
> > > > > Exec=harbour-kontroller
> > > > > Name=Kontroller
> > > > > # translation example:
> > > > > # your app name in German locale (de)
> > > > > #
> > > > > # Remember to comment out the following line, if you
> do not want
> > > > > to
> > > > > use
> > > > > # a different app name in German locale (de).
> > > > > #Name[de]=kontroller
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The whole source code is available here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/Julien-Blanc-tgcm/kontroller
> > > > >
> > > > > I changed a lot of things from v0.6, so tracking which
> particular
> > > > > change triggers the problem is not an easy task. I’d
> rather have
> > > > > a
> > > > > way
> > > > > to get more traces from lipstick than reverting every
> single
> > > > > change i
> > > > > made.
> > > > >
> > > > > THanks for your help,
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Julien
> > > > >
> > > > > Le lundi 13 avril 2020 à 19:57 +0300, Андрей
> Кожевников a écrit :
> > > > > > Hello. You're right. Show us your .desktop file
> to judge
> > > > > >
> > > > > > пн, 13 апр. 2020 г. в 19:12, Julien Blanc <
> julien.blanc at tgcm.eu
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I’m running into a pretty annoying issue
> with lipstick not
> > > > > > > launching
> > > > > > > the application i develop anymore (occurs
> with 3.3, but
> > > > > > > occurs
> > > > > > > after i
> > > > > > > made some changes which should not be
> relevant).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The application launch fine from a terminal,
> launch fine from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > sdk,
> > > > > > > but launching it from lipstick, it never
> gets launched and
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > process
> > > > > > > does not show up when running top/ps &
> co.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This seems like there could be something
> wrong with my
> > > > > > > .desktop
> > > > > > > file,
> > > > > > > but it didn't change between version 0.6
> which was working
> > > > > > > fine
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > 3.3 and the dev version, which is not (i
> could not test dev
> > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > with 3.2 yet).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > journalctl does not show anything. There
> must be something
> > > > > > > wrong
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > my app, since it is the only one showing
> this behaviour (and
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > before), but i'm puzzled as how to debug
> this. Any pointer
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Julien
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:47:28 +0300
> From: Slava Monich <slava.monich at jolla.com>
> To: Sailfish OS Developers <devel at lists.sailfishos.org>
> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Lipstick not launching app
> Message-ID: <9f9f3ea3-7017-449d-2878-bd345e0bd478 at jolla.com>
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> Just so you know, boosters may have to go because of this change in glibc:
>
>     https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24323
>
> It has been reverted in Sailfish OS:
>
> https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/glibc/commit/df05690
>
> but at some point boosters may get replaced with simple fork() wrappers.
> They should still start your app, though.
>
> Cheers,
> -Slava
>
> > I think the qt5 booster is a no-op, but im sure someone with more
> > knowledge can correct me.  The regular booster will try and load
> the
> > app as a shared library so it will need to be compiled a certain way.
> > Depends how your app is written.  Anything based on the sdk
> templates
> > should be fine.
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:19, Julien Blanc <julien.blanc at tgcm.eu>
> wrote:
> >> Le mardi 14 avril 2020 à 11:27 +0100, Adam Pigg a écrit :
> >>> Have you tried using invoker to launch it?
> >> [nemo at Sailfish ~]$ invoker --type silica-qt5 harbour-kontroller
> >> invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/harbour-kontroller'
> >> invoker: error: Can't send signal 11 to application [24388]: No
> such
> >> process
> >> Segmentation fault
> >>
> >> [nemo at Sailfish ~]$ invoker --type qt5 harbour-kontroller
> >> invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/harbour-kontroller'
> >>
> >> --> app launches correctly.
> >>
> >> So that’s indeed a difference, and i can fix the .desktop file
> >> accordingly. Thanks for the tip.
> >>
> >> But what is the difference between silica-qt5 and qt5 ? Why would
> it
> >> cause an app crash ?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Julien
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 11:18, Julien Blanc <
> julien.blanc at tgcm.eu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Finally found something relevant in the logs :
> >>>>
> >>>> Apr 14 12:15:42 Sailfish mapplauncherd[5363]: Boosted
> process
> >>>> (pid=16324) was terminated due to signal 11
> >>>>
> >>>> So apparently, my app segfaults, but only when launched
> from
> >>>> applauncherd. This is somewhat good news. I can start to
> track the
> >>>> issue adding some debug traces.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm still puzzled as what's the difference between
> launching from
> >>>> lipstick and from a terminal.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Julien
> >>>>
> >>>> Le mardi 14 avril 2020 à 07:35 +0200, Julien Blanc a
> écrit :
> >>>>> There it is :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [Desktop Entry]
> >>>>> Type=Application
> >>>>> X-Nemo-Application-Type=silica-qt5
> >>>>> Icon=harbour-kontroller
> >>>>> Exec=harbour-kontroller
> >>>>> Name=Kontroller
> >>>>> # translation example:
> >>>>> # your app name in German locale (de)
> >>>>> #
> >>>>> # Remember to comment out the following line, if you
> do not want
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> use
> >>>>> # a different app name in German locale (de).
> >>>>> #Name[de]=kontroller
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The whole source code is available here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://github.com/Julien-Blanc-tgcm/kontroller
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I changed a lot of things from v0.6, so tracking
> which particular
> >>>>> change triggers the problem is not an easy task. I’d
> rather have
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> way
> >>>>> to get more traces from lipstick than reverting every
> single
> >>>>> change i
> >>>>> made.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> THanks for your help,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Julien
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le lundi 13 avril 2020 à 19:57 +0300, Андрей
> Кожевников a écrit :
> >>>>>> Hello. You're right. Show us your .desktop file
> to judge
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> пн, 13 апр. 2020 г. в 19:12, Julien Blanc <
> julien.blanc at tgcm.eu
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I’m running into a pretty annoying issue with
> lipstick not
> >>>>>>> launching
> >>>>>>> the application i develop anymore (occurs
> with 3.3, but
> >>>>>>> occurs
> >>>>>>> after i
> >>>>>>> made some changes which should not be
> relevant).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The application launch fine from a terminal,
> launch fine from
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> sdk,
> >>>>>>> but launching it from lipstick, it never gets
> launched and
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> process
> >>>>>>> does not show up when running top/ps & co.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This seems like there could be something
> wrong with my
> >>>>>>> .desktop
> >>>>>>> file,
> >>>>>>> but it didn't change between version 0.6
> which was working
> >>>>>>> fine
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> 3.3 and the dev version, which is not (i
> could not test dev
> >>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>> with 3.2 yet).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> journalctl does not show anything. There must
> be something
> >>>>>>> wrong
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> my app, since it is the only one showing this
> behaviour (and
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> didn't
> >>>>>>> before), but i'm puzzled as how to debug
> this. Any pointer
> >>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>> greatly appreciated.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Julien
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
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> >>>>>>> devel-unsubscribe at lists.sailfishos.org
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 19:01:28 +0200
> From: Julien Blanc <julien.blanc at tgcm.eu>
> To: Sailfish OS Developers <devel at lists.sailfishos.org>
> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Lipstick not launching app
> Message-ID: <11c9d2f40f4c091d5ab6d999b342d8c6a3f4896c.camel at tgcm.eu>
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> I finally tracked it to a race condition inside the startup phase of my
> application. For some reasons it never triggered when not launching
> using invoker, but my code was clearly broken, nothing wrong with
> invoker.
>
> So, i can fix it at this point.
>
> Thanks everybody for your help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Julien
>
> Le mardi 14 avril 2020 à 16:47 +0300, Slava Monich a écrit :
> > Just so you know, boosters may have to go because of this change in
> > glibc:
> >
> >    
> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24323
> >
> > It has been reverted in Sailfish OS:
> >
> > https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/glibc/commit/df05690
> >
> > but at some point boosters may get replaced with simple fork()
> > wrappers.
> > They should still start your app, though.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Slava
> >
> > > I think the qt5 booster is a no-op, but im sure someone with more
> > > knowledge can correct me.  The regular booster will try and
> load
> > > the
> > > app as a shared library so it will need to be compiled a certain
> > > way.
> > > Depends how your app is written.  Anything based on the sdk
> > > templates
> > > should be fine.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:19, Julien Blanc <julien.blanc at tgcm.eu
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Le mardi 14 avril 2020 à 11:27 +0100, Adam Pigg a écrit :
> > > > > Have you tried using invoker to launch it?
> > > > [nemo at Sailfish ~]$ invoker --type silica-qt5
> harbour-kontroller
> > > > invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/harbour-kontroller'
> > > > invoker: error: Can't send signal 11 to application
> [24388]: No
> > > > such
> > > > process
> > > > Segmentation fault
> > > >
> > > > [nemo at Sailfish ~]$ invoker --type qt5 harbour-kontroller
> > > > invoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/harbour-kontroller'
> > > >
> > > > --> app launches correctly.
> > > >
> > > > So that’s indeed a difference, and i can fix the .desktop
> file
> > > > accordingly. Thanks for the tip.
> > > >
> > > > But what is the difference between silica-qt5 and qt5 ? Why
> would
> > > > it
> > > > cause an app crash ?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Julien
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 11:18, Julien Blanc <
> > > > > julien.blanc at tgcm.eu>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Finally found something relevant in the logs :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apr 14 12:15:42 Sailfish mapplauncherd[5363]:
> Boosted process
> > > > > > (pid=16324) was terminated due to signal 11
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So apparently, my app segfaults, but only when
> launched from
> > > > > > applauncherd. This is somewhat good news. I can
> start to
> > > > > > track the
> > > > > > issue adding some debug traces.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still puzzled as what's the difference
> between launching
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > lipstick and from a terminal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Julien
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le mardi 14 avril 2020 à 07:35 +0200, Julien
> Blanc a écrit :
> > > > > > > There it is :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Desktop Entry]
> > > > > > > Type=Application
> > > > > > > X-Nemo-Application-Type=silica-qt5
> > > > > > > Icon=harbour-kontroller
> > > > > > > Exec=harbour-kontroller
> > > > > > > Name=Kontroller
> > > > > > > # translation example:
> > > > > > > # your app name in German locale (de)
> > > > > > > #
> > > > > > > # Remember to comment out the following
> line, if you do not
> > > > > > > want
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > # a different app name in German locale (de).
> > > > > > > #Name[de]=kontroller
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The whole source code is available here:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> https://github.com/Julien-Blanc-tgcm/kontroller
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I changed a lot of things from v0.6, so
> tracking which
> > > > > > > particular
> > > > > > > change triggers the problem is not an easy
> task. I’d rather
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > way
> > > > > > > to get more traces from lipstick than
> reverting every
> > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > change i
> > > > > > > made.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > THanks for your help,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Julien
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le lundi 13 avril 2020 à 19:57 +0300, Андрей
> Кожевников a
> > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > Hello. You're right. Show us your
> .desktop file to judge
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > пн, 13 апр. 2020 г. в 19:12, Julien
> Blanc <
> > > > > > > > julien.blanc at tgcm.eu
> > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I’m running into a pretty annoying
> issue with lipstick
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > launching
> > > > > > > > > the application i develop anymore
> (occurs with 3.3, but
> > > > > > > > > occurs
> > > > > > > > > after i
> > > > > > > > > made some changes which should not
> be relevant).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The application launch fine from a
> terminal, launch
> > > > > > > > > fine from
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > sdk,
> > > > > > > > > but launching it from lipstick, it
> never gets launched
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > process
> > > > > > > > > does not show up when running
> top/ps & co.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This seems like there could be
> something wrong with my
> > > > > > > > > .desktop
> > > > > > > > > file,
> > > > > > > > > but it didn't change between
> version 0.6 which was
> > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > fine
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > 3.3 and the dev version, which is
> not (i could not test
> > > > > > > > > dev
> > > > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > > with 3.2 yet).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > journalctl does not show anything.
> There must be
> > > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > wrong
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > my app, since it is the only one
> showing this behaviour
> > > > > > > > > (and
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > before), but i'm puzzled as how to
> debug this. Any
> > > > > > > > > pointer
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Julien
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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