[SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 26.11 + planning for next one 3.12

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello,

I am not able to join on next community meeting due to work restrictions I
have. So I can not propose a topic. I am instead post my thoughts directly
to this list.
I think no 1 topic is to stabilise Dev efforts for SailfishOS.
I do not believe to simply put sailfish in multiple places will ensure its
existance. This would only be the case if SailfishOS would open source it's
Software. This would be the death of Jolla in my eyes at this point.

I see rather a better strategy in a business model change. Instead of
trying to sell the OS to big companies sell the OS to your community.
I think the crowed funding method was quite successful. So I propose
another Crowed funding camagne. This has now to be a success. So I propose
something small. Like getting payment function into Jolla.
Perks could be to get better conditions after the Shop is live. Maybe 10% -
50% off.
I do not know how much money you need to make add payment functionallities
and survive the next month)

Another step could be to have a System suscription. This system
subscription is made to ensure updates. It should not be much like 5-10
euros a month. Free of choice if possible, enforce if neccessary. I have no
feeling how close Jolla is to the death.
I do like the Crowed funding mythology of star citizen. Most of them can
not be reused. But in art of communication they are top. Maybe open up your
communication on development, would be great.

I would also like to see more jolla stuff in the shop. I still want to buy
the external keyboard or the solar panel for jolla. Bit i still can not
find those in the Jolla shop. This is also an income Jolla must participate
in. Sell those stuff even from third party developers in your shop.
I refuse to buy from the third party directly because I know how much jolla
needs the money.

Get the old hardware section of jolla to develop some more second half
stuff. Like battery banks or 2nd phonecard connector. Maybe a mobility hub
for pcs. I do not know.

Sorry that this has nothing to do with development of source code. But I
think this is not really time for dreaming of open Source.

I know that you might not like this steps, but I think there is no chance
in rearranging debts will lead you from the death valley you are in.
That is only one way to get bankrupted fast.
You must generate money quickly. That is the only way somebody will
continue to invest into Jolla. And a credit is also an investment of sort.

This is an unpleasant message of sort. But jolla should focus on those
people has already convinced. Apple did that in their beginning. I know
some and they agree first iPhone were not very good. I think the sailfish
has potential but currently this potential is limited to the community you
have. And this are the ones here who prepare their products for sailfish,
and the ones who already spend money on the product.

Please take a break from convincing people that can play Jolla against
android, blackberry and iOS. You can return to that dream if you got out of
the valley.

I have time from 14th Dec till end of the year. I will participate then in
the meetings and bug you to various topics around Jolla. I hope this helps.

All the Best
Peter

Carol Chen <cybette+sailfishos at gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 26. Nov. 2015
17:17:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks to everyone who attended today's meeting! Minutes/logs:
>
> Minutes:http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-11-26-14.30.html
> Minutes (text):http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-11-26-14.30.txt
> Log:http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-11-26-14.30.log.html
>
> Next meeting will be on 2015-12-03 @ 14:30 UTC. Meeting Chair will be
> Carsten Munk (Stskeeps). Please propose discussion topics at: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/
>
> If you propose a topic, it is expected that you show up and present it,
> or have a substitute participate in the meeting. It is important that
> you're present at the meeting to guide the discussions in the direction
> you want, so we do not spend time guessing what kind of info/answers you
> may be looking for.
>
> NOTE: Propose your topic by Tuesday 1.12. Any topics added after that
> will be considered for the following meeting. Carsten will send out
> meeting invite with confirmed agenda before the meeting.
>
> Cheers,
>   Carol
>
> --
> Carol Chen
> cybette @ Freenode IRC
>
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