[SailfishDevel] Sip on Jola Phone / "Community Meetings"
Thomas B. Rücker
thomas at ruecker.fi
Sun Nov 15 16:31:46 UTC 2015
On 11/14/2015 06:11 PM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> Sounds like something to metion at a community meeting after all Jolla
> wants to profile itself as more privacy aware....
Feel free to do so. I've long given up on the farce that are
"community meetings".
Just so I don't get accused of baseless negativity, again, some points:
- No follow up on action points from previous meetings
- No accountability for not implementing actions
- Jolla (almost) never acts proactively regarding the agenda. Even
rather obvious topics need to be put up AND presented by community.
- Often such topics are then followed by grave silence, as Jolla
does not seem prepared and nobody with authority to answer is there.
- Instead of scheduling once properly, very important topics
get delayed, rescheduled, canceled, rescheduled again.
- Don't happen at all for over a quarter due to "summer vacations"
Or read the Minutes or full transcripts yourself:
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/CommunityMeetings
Oh and it's not like this topic didn't make it to IRC, community meetings
and the official roadmap before.
4.d (ff)
http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-09-23-10.00.html
2.
http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-01-07-15.01.html
So yeah, if anyone is interested, feel free to step in as
Don Quixote de La Mancha and put it on the agenda. I most certainly CBA.
>
> 2015-11-14 19:21 GMT+02:00 Vladislav Vorobiev <v at piratweb.com
> <mailto:v at piratweb.com>>:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thursday 12 November 2015 17:25:19 Thomas B. Rücker wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 11/09/2015 06:03 PM, Vladislav Vorobiev wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I setup my phone like this
> > >
> https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/
> and
> > > it seems to work. The Phone is ringing (display stay black)
> but I can
> > > answer if i activate the screen with the button.
> >
> > Sounds about right.
> >
> > > The microphone from jolla phone works and caller hears me but
> I can't hear
> > > the caller.
> >
> > If the situation is still the same as before, apply the ALSA
> trick and
> > try holding the phone upside down.
>
> You mean this?
>
> [stream]
> exe = voicecall-manager
> group = call
>
> or something else?
>
> > > So it's not usable....
> >
> > Correct, but that should not have been a surprise to you. After
> all you
> > read the TJC item on this topic.
> >
> > > For me is the stable sip feature (even without gui) decisive.
> >
> > Then I strongly suggest using a different device than a Jolla phone.
> >
> > > I have no firewall or something like what can block SIP,
> CSipSimple works
> > > on that device but there are other problems.
> >
> > That's an Android application, different can of worms and
> brokenness.
> >
> >
> > SIP was on Jolla's roadmap, but was never delivered. I expect it got
> > dropped, but nobody bothered to update their public roadmap. It
> is not a
> > feature that would generate value for Jolla in the form of
> operator or
> > manufacturer deals, so I don't expect them to bother.
>
> Seems the strategy is like by android and apple.
> I thought jola orients itself something else and supports independent
> services. We have already very good devices from Apple, Android
> and nobody
> need an half ready device with the same only profit strategy.
>
> I bought this device to check the current situation and what i see
> i wonder:
>
> Jola supports Facebook, Twitter, Google accounts but it don't support
> SIP, GPG (Mail or XMPP, what I is rely necessary to be different and
> independent).
>
> All what I need are basic things like: SIP, PGP, Calendar, Todos and
> possibility to sync my data with own servers and that's not
> given. If i need
> facebook or Twitter I'm going buy android or apple devices.
>
> > If you need SIP
> > urgently, as you say, get a different device, as there is no
> promise and
> > no outlook on a change in situation.
>
> I' have other phone and SIP is on PC. This discussion is more ge
>
> > Please note that I don't think talking about platform features
> and user
> > problems is on topic here. So let's EOD. If there's any change
> you'll
> > see it in the TJC item.
>
> I tried here because i hoped to get some updates in this case.
>
> Regards
> Vladislav
>
> > Thomas
>
--
Thomas
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