[SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

Tadeusz Sośnierz tadeusz.sosnierz at onet.pl
Thu Apr 9 09:09:47 UTC 2015


On 09.04.2015 11:03, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> You realize the keyboard doesn't need to be attached while it's in your
> pocket? Only while you're typing and while you type its' not covering
> the lens....

When I think of a phone with a hardware keyboard, it's something that's 
attached to my phone, not something that I carry almost separately and 
may lose or forget. Some people don't consider it a reasonable 
compromise, and would rather have a hole in hwkbd, or have it shorter 
than a phone itself. To each their own.

boost::regards,
tadzik

> 2015-04-09 11:27 GMT+03:00 <schifano at polytech.unice.fr
> <mailto:schifano at polytech.unice.fr>>:
>
>     I'm aware of this product, but I don't like how it is done.
>     The main issue of this keyboard is that it masks the camera. So I can't
>     take quickly a picture, I have to remove in first the keyboard. With
>     this
>     TOHKBD, we can't have an other one : it's either a keyboard or something
>     else. So this smartphone is just like all the others with a physical
>     keyboard, but less interesting because of the camera issue. And finally,
>     I'm not convinced by the magnets. I rather prefer a true slider
>     keyboard.
>
>     The main interest of this design could have been the possibility to
>     slide
>     out only the directional pad with the smartphone in portrait mode, for
>     allowing users to control there smartphone with it (in case they have
>     gloves for example).
>
>     So for the moment, for me, the Jolla phone with TOHKBD is not
>     interesting.
>
>      > The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know
>     if it
>      > will be available to people who didn't pre-order...
>      >
>      > (But right now you can still pre-order here:
>      >
>     http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
>      > )
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      > Eli
>      >
>      > 2015-04-09 1:27 GMT+03:00 Schifano Alexandre
>     <schifano at polytech.unice.fr <mailto:schifano at polytech.unice.fr>>:
>      >
>      >> It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
>      >> physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old
>     smartphones which
>      >> are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
>      >> You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
>      >> Galaxy Golden.
>      >> But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will
>     be the
>      >> one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)
>      >>
>      >> On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
>      >> > Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
>      >> >
>      >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
>      >> > <schifano at polytech.unice.fr
>     <mailto:schifano at polytech.unice.fr>
>     <mailto:schifano at polytech.unice.fr <mailto:schifano at polytech.unice.fr>>>
>      >> wrote:
>      >> >
>      >> >     Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android
>      >> environment
>      >> >     which implies an Android kernel.
>      >> >     I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this,
>     because I
>      >> wanted
>      >> >     to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android
>      >> phone
>      >> with
>      >> >     a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device
>     with the
>      >> >     possibility to install Android apps when there is not
>     equivalent.
>      >> >
>      >> >     Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
>      >> >
>      >> >     On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
>      >> >     > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
>      >> >     manager. It
>      >> >     > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using
>      >> libhybris.
>      >> >     > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace
>      >> Jolla
>      >> >     > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
>      >> >     > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
>      >> >     someone will
>      >> >     > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing
>      >> aliendalvik
>      >> for
>      >> >     > non-Jolla devices.
>      >> >     >
>      >> >     > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
>      >> >     >> Hi,
>      >> >     >>
>      >> >     >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
>      >> >     >>
>      >> >     >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
>      >> >     version) with
>      >> >     >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris.
>     So if I
>      >> >     am able
>      >> >     >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with
>     Wayland, I will
>      >> >     be able
>      >> >     >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an
>      >> Android
>      >> >     kernel
>      >> >     >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
>      >> >     possibility to
>      >> >     >> install Android apps ?
>      >> >     >>
>      >> >     >> Best regards
>      >> >     >>
>      >> >     >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
>      >> >     >>> Hi,
>      >> >     >>>
>      >> >     >>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
>      >> >     interrested
>      >> >     >>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia
>     N900, with
>      >> a
>      >> TI
>      >> >     >>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A
>     instructions,
>      >> >     mono-core)
>      >> >     >>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs).
>     Do you
>      >> think
>      >> >     >>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you
>     support
>      >> the
>      >> >     >>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
>      >> >     >>>
>      >> >     >>> Best regards,
>      >> >     >>> Alexandre Schifano
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