[SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

[Joseph Crowell]

See on a forum you could have just edited the last post.

On 5/24/2014 8:56 PM, christopher.lamb at thurweb.ch wrote:
> Ignore my last - I absentmindedly clicked "Send" before writing the 
> content!
>
> My suggestion is that rather than splitting into multiple mailing 
> lists, which does not really cure anything, you replace the mailing 
> lists with a forum. I agree it would be crazy to have both.
>
> Martin points out that I could simulate the same with rules and 
> filters: but that is post-fact, so if somebody starts spamming the 
> list from different threads and sock-puppets, then I need to 
> continually add new rules / filters. I prefer to spend my free time 
> programming Sailfish apps, not rules in my mail client!
>
> While there is talk.maemo.org, that serves a different role: it is an 
> independent forum (as opposed to one owned by Jolla); and the Sailfish 
> part has not divided into more focused sub-forums yet.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Zitat von christopher.lamb at thurweb.ch:
>
>> Hi Iekku
>>
>> Zitat von "Iekku Pylkka" <iekku.pylkka at jolla.com>:
>>
>>> Ahoy,
>>>
>>> We have been pondering the idea about forum. Truth to be told, we 
>>> are too small company to follow and contribute to that as well. We 
>>> are following/contributing to several IRC channels, 
>>> together.Jolla.com, this mailing list and I'm bombing our technical 
>>> developers with developer-care at jolla.com questions I can't answer 
>>> and can't find easily (below 30 minutes). And we have huge amount of 
>>> work to do :) Yes, we could have trusted community members as a 
>>> moderators in forum, but we would love to contribute and _read_ 
>>> those posts coming to forum.
>>>
>>> Br,
>>> Iekku Pylkkä
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org 
>>> [devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Martin Kolman 
>>> [martin.kolman at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 10:39 PM
>>> To: devel at lists.sailfishos.org
>>> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you 
>>> decide
>>>
>>> 23.5.2014 21:21, christopher.lamb at thurweb.ch:
>>>> Hi Jarko
>>>>
>>>> before we jump to splitting into multiple SF mailing lists, I wonder
>>>> has any thought been given to replacing the lists with a developer'
>>>> forum?
>>>>
>>>> I fear that multiple lists would not really help - I would end up
>>>> subscribed to all of them (both those that I am very interested in,
>>>> and those that I am sometimes interested in), and thus my In-box would
>>>> be just as full as it is now.
>>>>
>>>> A forum would be divided into sub-forums, and being thread oriented
>>>> (as opposed to post-oriented) I could freely choose which sub-forums
>>>> and which threads I chose to dive into, and which to ignore.
>>> Well, roughly the same thing can (and usually is by people subscribing
>>> to mailing list) achieved by setting up mail filters and redirecting
>>> email to per-mailing-list folders. I can't even think about all those
>>> email directly ending in my
>>> main inbox...
>>>
>>> Regarding a forum - well, talk.maemo.org is currently basically filling
>>> the role of the main Sailfish forum and this seems to work just 
>>> fine, so
>>> I don't really see the need for yet another forum instance (anybody
>>> still remembers forum.meego.com ?).
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Zitat von "Jarko Vihriala" <jarko.vihriala at jolla.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> We're looking into splitting the discussions on SF mailing lists.
>>>>> But, let's not make hasty moves and keep the technological part 
>>>>> alive.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks, Jarko
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org
>>>>> [devel-bounces at lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Ville M. Vainio
>>>>> [vivainio at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 9:45 PM
>>>>> To: Sailfish OS Developers
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you
>>>>> decide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of the discussions here have been borderline illegal;
>>>>> discouraging such behavior even with absence of 'technical' moderator
>>>>> tools (like you have even on barbaric environments like phpbb) is not
>>>>> necessarily a bad idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 22, 2014 5:53 PM,
>>>>> <christopher.lamb at thurweb.ch<mailto:christopher.lamb at thurweb.ch>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Seconded. I could not have put it better myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the early days I have enjoyed the very open nature of this
>>>>> forum where pretty much anything goes that is vaguely Jolla / Qt /
>>>>> Open Source / technical.
>>>>>
>>>>> From my recollection the number of threads that struck me as
>>>>> "definitely better elsewhere" has been refreshingly small. Many of
>>>>> the threads have been helpful or and or insightful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep up the good work
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> Zitat von "David Greaves"
>>>>> <david.greaves at jolla.com<mailto:david.greaves at jolla.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> There's been enough noise on this mailing list recently that some
>>>>> people have
>>>>> felt they don't want to participate.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to be careful about over-policing discussions but there is
>>>>> such a thing
>>>>> as under-policing too.
>>>>>
>>>>> How would we (community, not Jolla) determine the line? and what
>>>>> measures do we
>>>>> think should be taken?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lorn pointed to this as a useful document:
>>>>>  http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW I personally don't think there's anything happened recently that
>>>>> I would
>>>>> actually take action over. My delete key works fine and history shows
>>>>> that
>>>>> sometimes cries for help come in strange forms.
>>>>>
>>>>> David/lbt
>>>>>
>>>>> PS This thread is for generic guidelines - please keep any specific
>>>>> issues out
>>>>> of it.
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