[SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you decide

Stefano Mosconi stefano.mosconi at jolla.com
Sat May 24 18:30:38 UTC 2014


On 24/05/2014 16:25, Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> On Thursday 22 May 2014 15:18 David Greaves wrote:
>> There's been enough noise on this mailing list recently that some people
>> have felt they don't want to participate.
>>
>> We need to be careful about over-policing discussions but there is such a
>> thing as under-policing too.
>>
>> How would we (community, not Jolla) determine the line? and what measures do
>> we think should be taken?
>>
>> Lorn pointed to this as a useful document:
>>    http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/
>>
>> FWIW I personally don't think there's anything happened recently that I
>> would actually take action over. My delete key works fine and history shows
>> that sometimes cries for help come in strange forms.
>>
>> David/lbt
>>
>> PS This thread is for generic guidelines - please keep any specific issues
>> out of it.
>
> I think grievances about the community or Jolla should be allowed to a certain
> degree. Non-relevant personal attacks and/or trolling should not be allowed
> though.

Hi,

I believe that when there is something wrong (anywhere in the world) 
it's good to point that out and discuss it as much as possible. Only by 
analyzing what went wrong and how it could have gone better we (as human 
beings, community, companies) can improve.

Discussing means (to me) trying to understand the facts, the emotions, 
and the assumptions on how it should have been and then find a way 
forward. Discussion implies an exchange of information (so it's not a "I 
talk when you are done talking" but a "I listen while you talk and then 
I will talk back on the same topic (but stay with me please)").

Personal attacks or trolling are of course not constructive discussion 
and usually just because personal attacks and trolling are not a 
discussion at all (you need at least 2 to tango).

> These things won't happen often - if they do there is something wrong that
> should solved instead. Communication is vital for a community to survive.

And when they happen they are halting the whole community for a long 
amount of time and focusing the eyes of the community on that.

I refrain from proposing (even without a Jolla hat) how I would 
generally handle trolling. I let you guys figure it out, it's a pretty 
well known problem with well known solutions tested for centuries.


As per the tools I think the tools are not so relevant as long as the 
community finds its way to discuss. Personally I don't love forums but 
that is only my preference, as I don't like pizza with pineapple.

Cheers
-- 
Stefano Mosconi
without a Jolla hat


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