[SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl

Wed May 21 12:00:45 UTC 2014

On 5/21/2014 6:51 PM, Tone Kastlunger wrote:
> "Merlin1991 verschob die Seite Hack-A-Jolla nach Hack-A-Handy: event 
> umbenannt um den Sailfish Overlords nicht aufzufallen"
> This basically just points out the fact they renamed the event from 
> Hack-A-Jolla to hack-a-handy, in order not to get unnecessary 
> attention from the "Sailfish Overlords"
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Yuvraaj Kelkar <yuvraaj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:yuvraaj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Filip, what do you intend to achieve by posting your tirade in this
>     mailing list?
>     I saw your message, looked at the IRC logs you posted, looked at the
>     responses that Stskeeps and thp gave you and I didn't see anything in
>     there that would indicate that they're out to "break you" or ignore
>     you out of malice.
>

Good word.. Stefano might possibly be the most helpful, friendy person 
on the Jolla/Nemo irc channels.

>     They're within their rights to privacy and not responding to you is
>     perfectly acceptable.
>     So far the only one defaming you is yourself.
>
>     I wanted to ignore this thread because it is pointless to the nature
>     and goal of this mailing list and I
>     1. don't believe you are right
>     2. might not have enough information
>
>     I felt that I must end my non-involvement when you tried to flame
>     someone else.
>
>     My two cents: Take it offline or to t.m.o. We dont want you to waste
>     our time here.
>
>     Please.
>     Thank you.
>
>
>     On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Filip K?e;bczyk
>     <fklebczyk at gmail.com <mailto:fklebczyk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > W dniu 20.05.2014 22:13, Goulagman pisze:
>     >
>     >>
>     >> I'm afraid that without any further proofs of people supporting
>     one side
>     >> or another, we can't go further on this complaint. But that's
>     only my
>     >> opinion.
>     >>
>     >
>     > As a supplement.
>     >
>     > Wiki site of the event:
>     > https://metalab.at/wiki/Hack-A-Handy
>     >
>     > Also check it's history:
>     > https://metalab.at/wiki/index.php?title=Hack-A-Handy&action=history
>     >
>     > I must admit I don't know German and I don't know what the part
>     means and
>     > Google Translate seems not to translate it in a way I would
>     understand:
>     > "Merlin1991 verschob die Seite Hack-A-Jolla nach Hack-A-Handy: event
>     > umbenannt um den Sailfish Overlords nicht aufzufallen"
>     >
>     > And most importantly IRC log (see 19:47, 20:01):
>     > http://wklej.org/hash/8ede3d7b136/
>     >
>     > Christian statement:
>     > 16:55 <merlin1991> the meetup in essence is open, and happens in
>     an open
>     > hackerspace, so as long as you're welcome there I can't tell you
>     not to come
>     > and also don't want to, but thp stated he is not coming when /
>     if you're
>     > there
>     > 16:55 <merlin1991> so now I've got a conflict of interests here
>     sence he is
>     > the one who provides most to the meetings ...
>     >
>     > Metalab statement:
>     > On behalf of the Anlaufstelle I would once again like to state
>     that you were
>     > absolutely right to point this issue out to us.
>     > I have talked to both merlin and thp today and made it
>     absolutely clear that
>     > exclusion of any sorts is not welcome at the Metalab.
>     >
>     > Whatever grudges thp holds against you, he will have to keep
>     them to his
>     > private sphere of action and away from things that officially
>     happen at the
>     > Metalab.
>     >
>     > Now whatever way thp, or anyone else involved, will handle this
>     in the
>     > future, I cannot say, but I hope it will be a wise choice and an
>     open,
>     > inclusive one.
>     >
>     > Let me say again, that you are at all times welcome at the
>     Metalab* and that
>     > we're very sorry this situation occured.
>     > If anything goes wrong again in this regard or any other, feel
>     free to
>     > contact us again at any time!
>     >
>     > Part of Stefano Mosconi response (Jolla board, said that he was
>     representing
>     > Jolla Developer Care) on that matter:
>     > if Thomas does not want to invite you to a party he organizes
>     that is
>     > completely his choice and does not affect Jolla public image
>     >
>     > My comment:
>     > I've explained to Stefano, that Thomas wasn't organizer of the
>     event. More
>     > over Thomas Perl was writing about this event on Together (so
>     according to
>     > guidelines as Jolla employee:
>     >
>     https://together.jolla.com/question/39671/anybody-has-jolla-in-vienna/#post-id-39932
>     >
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Filip
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