[SailfishDevel] Edit wars on community guidelines etherpad, new location

Carsten Munk carsten.munk at jolla.com
Sat Jun 14 09:09:44 UTC 2014


Hi,

We seem to be experiencing some edit wars with problematic content on 
the sailfish community guidelines etherpad.

I've volunteered to be posting the below version to merproject.org wiki:

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/SailfishCommunity/WIP_Community_Guidelines

Use login from bugs.merproject.org one and the guidelines in place there 
are comparable to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/IRC_guidelines and 
standard wiki sane behaviour. Please adhere to those.

In that regard, the below is the last version before edit wars started, 
authors (Sorry for loosing formatting):

Artem
Iekku
andorreta
Carol
SK
Morpog
netzvieh
...and 1 unnamed author

Revision 897:

Basic community guidelines has taken from: 
http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/

Common Community guidelines:
Be considerate
Be respectful
Be collaborative
Be pragmatic
Support others in the community
Get support from others in the community

Sailfish Developer Mailinglist:
Sailfish Developer Mailinglist is only for technical conversation. 
There's moderators from community and Jolla side.
Mostly tech questions, please, not only-tech-questions. People should be 
able to express frustration about the forum itself too. We just 
shouldn't allow it to happen in 20 emails and 10 topics over a coupe of days
  * 3 warning systems,  3rd is banning from mailing list [the warnings 
should expire after "a while" of good behaviour +1]. Jolla provides 
conversation channel  for moderators, so private issues can be handled 
there (if there's a  need).
  * plaintext only+1
  * inline quoting please
  * no simple +1 (etc) mails, ML shouldn't be a voting tool
  * Add warnings for being abusive and being a jerk only. Do not warn a 
newbie pasting a lot of text. Warnings shall be reserved for something 
real bad. probably differentiate between "warnings" and "strikes", 
continued disregarding the rules should lead to strikes (though thats 
"real bad" in my eyes)
  * Language: English

IRC guidelines:
#sailfishos and #jollamobile will follow #mer irc rules:
  * Ask smart questions: Eric Raymond wrote a good text on how best to 
ask questions - http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html   - 
reading this text and understanding it will help you to get the 
optimal experience out of the communication within the Sailfish OS 
project and  the best answers to help your work
  *  Keep it clean: many of us participate from work, so keep the 
language clean.
  *  Don't be a jerk:  treat people with respect and  consideration - no 
regional, racial,  gender or other abuse will be  tolerated. We are 
people from all over  the world and we come from many  different 
projects and we all have to  work together on the Sailfish OS.
  *  Be helpful: be patient with new people and be willing to jump in to 
answer questions.
  *  Stay calm:  the written word is always subject to  interpretation, 
so give people  the benefit of the doubt and try not to  let emotions 
get out of  control.
  *  Don't post chunks: avoid posting big chunks of text - use a 
pastebin or a similar service to shorten it to a link.
  *  Be Patient: Folks might not be around when you ask a question so 
wait a while for someone to speak before leaving.
  *  Don't Private Message:  Ask permission before you send  someone a 
private message (PM) as not  everyone likes them. Also by  keeping it in 
public others with similar  issues can see the solution you  were given.

Together.jolla.com:
https://together.jolla.com/question/15847/doing-it-together-community-moderatorscontributors-wanted/


Ban system for IRC:

  * Warnings should expire after a while of good behavior.
  * Ban times should expand for repeated warnings.
  *
  * Example:
  * 1st warning - no ban
  * 2nd warning - no ban
  * 3rd warning - 1 day ban (one day ban on a ML?)(Better 1 week?)(maybe 
something in between)(3 days?)
  *
  * If after a while all warnings are deleted. And the user gets another 
warning:
  *
  * 1st warning - 1 day ban
  * 2nd warning - 1 week ban
  * 3rd warning - 1 month ban
  *
  * You could expand this to lifetime bans or not.
  * - Lifetime bans for spam accounts etc.
  * - If there is a very problematic user that does not have much 
warnings, but very abusive behavior, then a lifetime ban discussion for 
that user could be proposed for next community meeting. If most of 
people suggest a lifetime ban, then it could ignore the warning rules.




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